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Jimmy’s Notes on Episode 51: Dallas Mora vs. ‘Gamera 2: Attack of Legion’

Is it Saturday? Damn, what was in that beer I had last night at the Monster Island Tavern? That’s the last time I go drinking with Dr. Dourif. No wonder I didn’t finish my promised “Jimmy’s Notes” blog on episode 51 (Gamera 2: Attack of Legion). Nate isn’t the only one trying to get back on schedule. Thankfully, with this, I’ll be caught up after all of the Board’s shenanigans. Surprisingly, I didn’t take many notes during that broadcast. They were:

  • Yes, the beginning of this film was nostalgic for me. I miss NASA. I thought about getting a job there again during Nate’s time in orbit. I may still need to if business dries up for the Island. Good thing I still have connections there.
  • I did some digging, as Dallas requested, and I couldn’t find any staff members who worked on both Gamera 2 and Parasite Eve. However, the 1997 movie adaptation of the original Japanese novel was distributed by Kadokawa Shoten, which is owned by the same parent company that bought Daiei (and Gamera) in 2002.
  • It was a girl who was crying over Gamera, not a boy, Nate! Use the right pronoun!
  • The Maccabean Revolt was in the second century B.C. and was against the Seleucid Empire, which was Greek
  • Dallas is bothered by my tight T-shirts? It’s not my fault I need to change my wardrobe after hitting the Kaiju Gym as hard as I have. 😛

Now for the overabundance of leftover notes Marchand has on this movie. I don’t think I’m contractually obligated to share these anymore (it’s all in flux after recent events), but being that he’s my friend, here you go.

  • The detective is back! But now he’s a security beer warehouse. And he still can’t get away from kaiju! His interview by the cops on video made me think of The Terminator. I wonder if Kirin Beer sponsored the movie? (Maybe. I should have some Kirin beer delivered to the Island. So we can ask them to sponsor us, of course! -Jimmy)
  • This movie likes horizontal wipes. (Kinda like one of my favorite space movies…. –Jimmy)
  • Interesting that the evacuees run through a torii gate (see Daimajin episode of MIFV). It marked the entrance to a sacred place. Shelter?
  • I love the effects when Gamera inhales to shoot a plasma ball. You see gas go in his mouth and his throat light up.
  • Again, there are real consequences. Legion corpses on the beach after Gamera swims away.
  • Netscape and the old internet. Quaint.
  • Asagi shows up 40 or so minutes in.
  • A second flower as a set piece does seem a bit repetitive.
  • All those hats on that long rack!
  • Asagi’s hat says, “Invisible,” in English. It describes her because she goes unheeded by most people. (You freaking English major. 😛  –Jimmy)
  • Breaking Legion’s horn actually makes things worse. Pacing and escalation. Legion goes red-eyed and angry.
  • SHINKU…HADOKEN! This is crazy, anime-esque, and doesn’t get explained until the next film. Otherwise, it’s totally left field. “If his chest had been a cannon, he’d have shot his heart upon it.” (Again, FREAKING ENGLISH MAJOR! –Jimmy)

COMMENTARY BY KYLE YOUNT

  • Opened between Godzilla vs. Destoroyah and Rebirth of Mothra, so the kaiju scene was a bit stale.
  • First act is set in Hokkaido, which is a bit unique for a kaiju film. Northernmost island.
  • The scientists and military actually get along.
  • The crew had to pull the beer bottles by hand because their rig didn’t work. Had to paint their fingers black so they wouldn’t show up on camera.
  • The doctor who dissects the Legion soldier was an actual professor.

INTRO BY RAGONE (ARROW VIDEO)

  • Mahiro Miyeda, who helped design Legion, also did concepts for Mad Max: Fury Road.

A TESTIMONY OF 15 YEARS (DOCUMENTARY)

  • One of the producers on the trilogy, Morio Akawa, didn’t even like monster movies and preferred movies for older audiences as a kid. He credits the trilogy with stretching him.
  • (Ito wouldn’t show his face in his interview. Instead, we saw his dog. Why?) (Because you writers are weird? 😛 –Jimmy)
  • Ito calls the trilogy his “coming-of-age” as a screenwriter. He says there’s a clear difference between his writing before and after the trilogy. He used to be associated Mamori Oshii, and now he’s associated with this trilogy.
  • Otani says Masaru Sato saw the first film and said, “There’s no one in Japan who writes like this, at full throttle!” Otani says that’s how he works.

MACIAS (ARROW BOOKLET)

  • Guiron and Barugon were discussed to return, but the filmmakers decided to go with a new monster—Gamera’s first original foe since 1971—Legion. (I think Barugon wants to know…why was he replaced? –Jimmy)
  • Gamera was redesigned slightly by Tomo Haraguchi, an effects wizard and film director).
  • This time, the JSDF supports Gamera.

 “BRINGING UP GAMERA” BY ENGLAND (ARROW BOOKLET)

  • As a teen, he (Higuchi) got a part-time job with Toho and worked with Koichi Kawakita on Sayonara Jupiter (see MIFV episode 41) and Return of Godzilla.
  • He storyboarded for many productions, including anime like Neon Genesis Evangelion (Anno named the series’ main character after him).
  • He wanted a project at the time that fit into what he envisioned—that is until screenwriter Ito got him the job on Guardian of the Universe. He’d never done it before, so Daiei was taking a risk.
  • He wasn’t able to redesign Gamera as much as he wanted, which brought him into conflict with the studio. He wished he could’ve gotten away with what the filmmakers did on Godzilla (1998). However, in Gamera 2, he got to do it by making Gamera more like a sea turtle with flippers.
  • With designing Legion, he said he wanted to make something memorable like old school kaiju, because he felt modern kaiju had “muddled characteristics.”  He started with an idea of having the skeleton on the outside, which led to having two men in the suit since human joints are fixed and he wanted to avoid the human shape.
  • The suit was heavy, and it took the actors ten minutes just to get in it, and they could only wear it for ten minutes at a time. The principle actor, Mizuho Yoshida, went on to play Godzilla in GMK (and previously played Zeiram in those films). He’s biased, but Higuchi thinks Legion is one of the five best kaiju designs ever.

FLOWER – ENGLISH LANGUAGE GAMERA

  • It was released on DVD by ADV in 2003 with a dub written and directed by Kyle Jones. The also produced the infamous “Lake Texarkana” dub where the actors read their lines as southern hillbillies.

LEMAY (BIG BOOK)

  • Also considered having Viras (Jimmy wanted to be in that one). (YES! And I’d still kick his @$$! –Jimmy)
  • Legion’s head was supposedly inspired by Guiron.
  • In an homage to the Showa series, Gamera bleeds more and is initially taken out by the Legion seed pod.
  • It grossed about the same amount of money as the first and won Best Special Effects from the Japanese Academy.
  • There’s a manga sequel that may or may not be canon, which is a Heisei retelling of Barugon.
  • There was a short-lived rumor that Disney might distribute the film.

TOKU TOPIC: THE EXORCISM OF THE GERASENE DEMONIAC

  • The demon’s name refers to a Roman legion, which could comprise up to over 5,000 soldiers. Some also connect it to Isaiah 65:4, which has God referring to obstinate Israel defying Him: “who sit in tombs, / and spend the night in secret places; / who eat pig’s flesh, / and broth of tainted meat is in their vessels;”

And there you have it.

As of this writing, our next two episodes will feature my former nemesis Michael Hamilton as the guest for the next “Godzilla Redux” episode, which covers the first sequel to Godzilla (1954), Godzilla Raids Again. Then the “Year of Gamera” comes to an end with Gamera the Brave, which will have Bex from the Redeemed Otaku podcast as the co-host. I confess I might miss the big turtle.

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Episode 52 – Kaiju Kim vs. ‘Gamera 3: Revenge of Iris’

Hello, kaiju lovers! After nearly a year of surviving inane MST3K fodder and watching the first two entries of a fantastic trilogy, Nate reaches one of kaiju eiga’s zeniths with Gamera 3: Revenge of Iris. He’s joined by YouTuber and (ironically) Godzilla enthusiast Kaiju Kim to discuss this masterpiece. As Nate puts it, this is one of the rare trilogies where each entry gets better—in fact, everything gets cranked to 12 in this. They discuss the amazing story, incredible characters, impressive special effects, absolute badassery, and the many, many cultural elements that may go over western fans’ heads as crazy fantasy. Speaking of which, choosing a Toku Topic was difficult, but Nate landed on the Four Symbols and mana, because they play the big roles in this film and the rest of the trilogy.

Check out Kim’s video on Gamera 3 here.

Listen to Nathan Marchand and Travis Alexander’s spinoff podcast, The Henshin Men, on Redcircle.

We’d like to give a shout-out to our MIFV MAX patrons Travis Alexander and Michael Hamilton (co-hosts of Kaiju Weekly); Danny DiManna (author/creator of the Godzilla Novelization Project); Eli Harris (elizilla13); Chris Cooke (host of One Cross Radio); Bex from Redeemed Otaku; Damon Noyes, The Cel Cast, TofuFury, and Elijah Thomas! Thanks for your support!

You, too, can join MIFV MAX on Patreon to get this and other perks starting at only $3 a month!

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This episode is approved by the Monster Island Board of Directors…maybe.

Timestamps:

  • Intro: 0:00-9:09
  • Entertaining Info Dump: 9:09-18:11
  • Toku Talk: 18:11-1:25:42
  • Ad: 1:25:42-1:26:34
  • Toku Topic: 1:26:34-1:54:13
  • Listener Feedback, Housekeeping, & Outro: 1:54:13-end

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Episode 51 – Dallas Mora vs. ‘Gamera 2: Attack of Legion‘

Hello, kaiju lovers! After a harrowing and riff-tastic adventure in space, Nate and Jimmy return to Monster Island to find the podcast in chaos. Not only did their nemesis WHG3 try to replace MIFV with his own podcast, he canceled all of their guest invitations. Thankfully, Jimmy was able to get Geek Devotions co-founder Dallas Mora to come on to continue the “Year of Gamera” with Gamera 2: Attack of Legion (or “Attack of the Legion” or the much-cooler-title-that-should’ve-been-kept “Advent of Legion”). Nate and Dallas discuss its amazing traditional tokusatsu effects and Christian symbology, among other things. Did you know Gamera is a Christ-figure? Find out how in today’s episode! Along those lines, the Toku Topic is the exorcism of the Gerasene demoniac, the Bible story that gave Legion her name.

After the broadcast, Nate goes to the Monster Island Chapel, where he’s greeted by Rev. Mifune. The chaplain tells Nate that Karone—the former “Miss Perkins”—had been hiding in the chapel since before Nate was shot into space. Nate then has a heart-to-heart talk with the former supervillainess and Power Ranger.

Listen to Nathan Marchand and Travis Alexander’s spinoff podcast, The Henshin Men, on Redcircle.

This episode’s prologue and epilogue, “Moving Forward,” was written by Nathan Marchand.

Guest stars:

  • Daniel DiManna as Dr. Dourif
  • Nate Chen as Rev. Mifune
  • Celeste Mora as Karone

Additional music:

  • “A Maiden’s Prayer” by RebeccaETripp

Sound effects sourced from Freesound.org.

We’d like to give a shout-out to our MIFV MAX patrons Travis Alexander and Michael Hamilton (co-hosts of Kaiju Weekly); Danny DiManna (author/creator of the Godzilla Novelization Project); Eli Harris (elizilla13); Chris Cooke (host of One Cross Radio); Bex from Redeemed Otaku; Damon Noyes, The Cel Cast, TofuFury, and Elijah Thomas! Thanks for your support!

You, too, can join MIFV MAX on Patreon to get this and other perks starting at only $3 a month!

Buy official MIFV merch on TeePublic!

This episode is NOT approved by the Monster Island Board of Directors.

Timestamps:

  • Prologue, “Moving Forward, Part 1”: 0:00-3:21
  • Intro: 3:21-13:06
  • Entertaining Info Dump: 13:06-21:49
  • Toku Talk: 21:49-1:37:55
  • (Dr. Dourif’s Call: 24:04-30:41)
  • Extra Life 2021 Charity Stream Promo: 1:37:55-1:39:13
  • Toku Topic: 1:39:13-2:02:47
  • Listener Feedback, Housekeeping, & Outro: 2:02:47-2:18:20
  • Epilogue, Moving Forward, Part 2”: 2:18:20-end

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Episode 50: ‘The War in Space‘ | 2nd Anniversary Riff Track Spectacular!

(FYI: THIS EPISODE IS BEST EXPERIENCED WHILE WATCHING THE WAR IN SPACE. See the link below for a website to stream it). With the KIJU studio in Earth orbit, Nate is awakened by WHGIII via video chat. But the “union jackwagon” defers to his bosses, the president and vice president of the Monster Island Board of Directors—who are none other than Commander Hell and the Kilaak Queen! After they and the rest of the Board gloat over shooting Nate into space, they unveil their plan to finally break MIFV’s noble host—make him watch Toho’s Star Wars knockoff, The War in Space! In a desperate attempt to get himself home, Nate makes a bet with the Board: if he survives the movie, they bring him back to Earth. He then invokes his contract and requests two guest hosts: Joe Metter—and MIFV’s intrepid producer, Jimmy From NASA! What follows is a riff track of Mystery Science Theater 3000 proportions! Can Nate survive bootleg Star Wars with two of his best friends? Find out in MIFV’s second anniversary riff track spectacular!

Stream The War in Space here.

Listen to Nathan Marchand and Travis Alexander’s spinoff podcast, The Henshin Men, on Redcircle.

This episode was written by Nathan Marchand and friends.

Guest stars:

  • Michael Hamilton as William H. George III
  • Joe Metter as Joe
  • Joy Metter as Board Vice President Kila
  • Luke Jaconetti as Board President Hell
  • Jimmy From NASA as Himself
  • Cameos
    • Travis Alexander
    • Michael Hamilton
    • Becky “Bex” Smith
    • Ryan “The Omni Viewer” Collins
    • Brandon “Up From the Depths” Jacobs
    • J.R. Villers
    • Damon Noyes
    • Eli Harris
    • Daniel DiManna

Additional music:

  • “MST3K Love Theme” by Joel Hogdson
  • “Main Title” (The War in Space) by Toshiaki Tsushima

Sound effects sourced from Freesound.org.

We’d like to give a shout-out to our MIFV MAX patrons Travis Alexander and Michael Hamilton (co-hosts of Kaiju Weekly); Danny DiManna (author/creator of the Godzilla Novelization Project); Eli Harris (elizilla13); Chris Cooke (host of One Cross Radio); Bex from Redeemed Otaku; Damon Noyes, The Cel Cast, TofuFury, and Elijah Thomas! Thanks for your support!

You, too, can join MIFV MAX on Patreon to get this and other perks starting at only $3 a month!

Buy official MIFV merch on TeePublic!

This episode is NOT approved by the Monster Island Board of Directors.

Timestamps:

  • Intro & Host Segment #1: 0:00-17:32
  • Riff Track: 17:32-1:47:57
  • Host Segment #2 & Outro: 1:47:57-end

Podcast Social Media:

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Jimmy’s Notes on Episode 48: The Tourists vs. ‘Gamera: Guardian of the Universe’

So, the Board made me sit out an episode. Again. They apparently thought it was great hardly hearing me in episode 46. Just ignore the fact that there have been other episodes where I didn’t say much, and it wasn’t because of a bet with some overworked Godzilla author. Oh well. It’s done. I listened to episode 48 (Gamera: Guardian of the Universe) while helping Raymund Martin with paperwork. Actually, I did all of it while he hid in his office. He’s still reeling from losing Gary. I was happy to hear Jet Jaguar stick up for me when Nate and his guests let the riffs fly against me.

Regardless, I took some notes while listening:

  • I appreciate the shout-out…IN SPACE! Also, I do know those pigs Tim mentioned. They’re crazy. I’m amazed they haven’t crashed their ship into the moon.
  • John LeMay compared Heisei Gamera to the Dark Knight Trilogy, Nate, not Batman ’89. I know this, and John and I don’t get along!
  • Gyaos is female, Joe…most of the time? Maybe? It’s weird. We’ve gotten into the habit of using “they/them” to refer to that kaiju for obvious reasons.
  • We all need hazard pay. Except Jet. He doesn’t need money. I’ll take his cut. 😛
  • The name of the author of “The Last Hope” is Josh B’Gosh. And yes, he also shared your crazy theory about me, Nate.
  • It’s probably best Joy and I didn’t meet on the air again. We did bump into each other on the Island, though. … I don’t want to talk about it.
  • It was episode 32 on the first Gamera movie that you talked about environmentalism, with Nick, Nate.
  • According to several sources, the Japanese title for this film was Gamera: Daikaijū Kūchū Kessen, which translates literally to “Gamera: Giant Monster Midair Battle.” So, Nate was a little off. (But so was Matt Frank, who said “Dogfight” in his commentary on the Arrow blu-ray set).
  • The explanation for the Atlantis-destroying comet that became Venus is simple: it’s bull@#$%.
  • Nate was a little off about the U.K. dub. It was released by Manga Entertainment, but they commissioned Arrival Films to make it.

Here are Nate’s leftover notes (my contractual obligations are fulfilled). For once, he got through all his notes on the Toku Topic, which saves me some time and space (pun intended).

The Film

  • Distributed by Toho, ironically. (I’m sure they relished the irony. –Jimmy)
  • Nuclear weapons, radiation, and “another country’s submarine” are all mentioned in the beginning.
  • Already the score by Kow Otani is incredible. Is it any wonder I used a remix of one of his tracks as the show’s theme? Kaneko didn’t give him much direction, and he composed it quickly (within a day or two). (It’s a crime you didn’t mention this, Nate, especially since we use a remix of one of his music tracks for the show! –Jimmy)
  • Asagi’s dad doesn’t like Scotch. That would disappoint WHG3. (I wish you’d mentioned this just to annoy him. –Jimmy)
  • “Right here—on this M&M.”
  • I like the old-school frame shifts (fades).
  • Gyaos appears about 14 minutes in.
  • The government and the JSDF act without consulting the scientists about the Gyaos. They simply make demands for the Gyaos to be captured.
  • There are a few underwater shots that are obviously in a pool, sadly.
  • “Harry Hawk” and “Hercules One.” Those sound like movie titles. Hudson Hawk. (Let’s not talk about those. –Jimmy)
  • Japanese ibis. (What about them? –Jimmy)
  • They keep calling Gyaos a bird, but I’m not sure she is. Reptile and bat, too. (It’s confusing for all of us, including the scientists. –Jimmy)
  • Anyone get flashbacks to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom on the bridge? (Yes, and I wish I hadn’t. –Jimmy)
  • Gamera is clearly the hero since he takes a shot from Gyaos to save the characters.
  • Gamera crashes on Mt. Fuji, which is where he fought Gyaos in 1967.
  • How hard is it to hit a giant turtle, guys? Freaking Stormtroopers. (Accurate. –Jimmy)
  • The cab driver worries me. He must be with Uber. Crashing through a barricade and laughing.
  • The powers that be want to capture Gyaos despite it eating people but want to kill Gamera? Compared to a T-Rex.
  • Asagi and Mayumi are the big stars, but they don’t outshine or demean the men. This is how you do “strong female characters.”
  • Asago loves Mary Poppins, apparently. Japanese poster on door.
  • “She says Gamera is coming.” “He’s here.”
  • Gamera is a second-round fighter: he loses the first time and comes back later to win.
  • The miniature playground is incredibly detailed.
  • The buildings have small details like tiny furniture.
  • Gyaos shoots his own foot off just like in 1967.

Ragone Intro

  • Originally conceived as a 60-minute children’s film.
  • One-third of the budget of a Toho Godzilla film? (Some sources say one-half. –Jimmy)

England

  • Kaneko did go independent in 1987 and made several dramas. He also contributed to Necronomicon, a horror anthology film. He says horror is the lower form of entertainment in Japan—even lower than roman porno. Japan doesn’t have the same horror tradition as America.
  • Ayako Fujitani was quite shy. Kaneko had the actors audition by looking up and shouting, “Gamera!” Fujitani was red-faced before doing it. He gave her the role based on her dark personality (he says).
  • The crew felt like they had to compete with Godzilla.
  • When he got the project, Kaneko’s wife told him, “You know, you may as well kiss Godzilla goodbye.” #irony

Frank Commentary

  • The dismembered Gyaos were made by eating fried chicken bones and then bleached.
  • The mantra on set was, “What would Honda do?” Kaneko admired the director. The bridge scene is similar to one in Mothra.
  • The filmmakers thought exploding monsters were more viscerally satisfying. That was more of a TV thing than a movie thing.
  • Kaneko didn’t like the critical accolades the film got because he’d never had those before.

Arrow Special features

  • Kaneko: “Monster movies are an expression of man’s need to destroy something.”

LeMay – Big Book

  • Kaneko went on to direct the Japanese live-action Death Note films.
  • Didn’t make as much money as Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla. (Tragic. It must’ve been the name recognition.  –Jimmy)

LeMay – Lost Films

  • Ito’s first draft was more similar to classic Gamera, complete with a child protagonist, and while some elements from this made it into Guardian and later The Brave, it was reworked when Kaneko came on.

LeMay – Writing

  • Ito didn’t like the children in the old Gamera movies because they acted like adults and bossed the grown-ups around.

That was some brisk reading compared to some of my recent blogs, right?

Next week, I’m back in the producer booth for another Patreon-sponsored episode. This one is brought to you by MIFV MAX member Damon Noyes, who had us discuss Toei’s crazy 1966 fantasy film The Magic Serpent. I normally don’t get excited for films like this, but this one was eerily similar to one of my favorite films. What was it? Listen to find out! Then we get to episode 50 and the show’s second anniversary. We have big plans for that one, but we’re keeping them top secret to surprise all of you, listeners. Stay tuned!

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Episode 48 – The Tourists vs. ‘Gamera: Guardian of the Universe’

Hello, kaiju lovers! Though still grieving the loss of Gary, Nate soldiers on—without his intrepid producer, Jimmy From NASA, as mandated by the Board—because he’s finally made it to the good part of “The Year of Gamera”! He’s joined by three of the original MIFV Tourists, Nick Hayden, Timothy Deal, and Joe Metter, to discuss Gamera: Guardian of the Universe, the first of the famed Heisei Trilogy directed by Shusuke Kaneko. While the Tourists have never seen it, they have a deep appreciation of storytelling, drama, and anime, so Nate was certain they would enjoy it. Did they? Listen to find out! The Toku Topic is the legend of Atlantis since it factors heavily into this film and the rest of the trilogy.

During the broadcast, Nate finally conducts his overdue interview with Spacewoman Kilara, who is much nicer about the whole thing than Nate expects. Unlike Miss Perkins, about whom Nate and Jimmy were messaged about by Jessica before the show with a bombshell revelation. Then after the broadcast, he visits the Board’s executive assistant at her office to confront her—with electrifying results.

Listen to Nate and Travis’s spinoff podcast, The Henshin Men Podcast, on Redcircle.

This episode’s prologue and epilogue, “Revelation of Power,” was written by Nathan Marchand. “An Interview with Spacewoman Kilara” was written by Nathan Marchand.

Guest stars:

  • Amy Summers as Spacewoman Kilara
  • Celeste Mora as Miss Perkins

Additional music:

Sound effects sourced from Freesound.org.

We’d like to give a shout-out to our MIFV MAX patrons Travis Alexander and Michael Hamilton (co-hosts of Kaiju Weekly); Danny DiManna (author/creator of the Godzilla Novelization Project); Eli Harris (elizilla13); Chris Cooke (host of One Cross Radio); Bex from Redeemed Otaku; Damon Noyes, The Cel Cast, TofuFury, and Elijah Thomas! Thanks for your support!

You, too, can join MIFV MAX on Patreon to get this and other perks starting at only $3 a month!

Check out MIFV MAX #4 to learn how you can help make Episode 50—MIFV’s second anniversary special—possible!

Buy official MIFV merch on TeePublic!

This episode is approved by the Monster Island Board of Directors.

Timestamps:

  • Prologue: 0:00-3:01
  • Intro: 3:01-17:15
  • (Kilara Interview: 4:37-9:29)
  • Entertaining Info Dump: 17:15-26:07
  • Toku Talk: 26:07-1:27:53
  • Promo: 1:27:53-1:28:31
  • Toku Topic: 1:28:31-1:49:29
  • Listener Feedback, Housekeeping & Outro: 1:49:29-1:59:29
  • Epilogue: 1:59:29-end

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Jimmy’s Notes on Episode 47: ‘Godzilla, King of the Monsters!’ (1956) (feat. Elijah Thomas)

I’ve gotten into a bad habit of not blogging on time, haven’t I? That’s mostly because I’ve been fielding multiple phone calls for the bad PR last week’s episode on Godzilla, King of the Monsters! (1956) got me after Elijah Thomas alleged that I had an OnlyFans account. I ended up consulting with Miss Perkins about how to handle it, which wasn’t easy for me to do. The only reason she didn’t charge me was because I’m a space war veteran. That was nice of her, at least.

Anyway, here are my notes from the episode:

  • Why are there microphones styled after…human nipples? Or are they yeti nipples? You know what, don’t answer either of those questions. I don’t need more OnlyFans accusations.
  • The line, “Makes King Kong look like a midget,” was from an article in the Daily News, which is based in New York City, so I’d know.
  • I love Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster almost as much as Monster Zero. I saw it at the Champion Film Festival as a kid with Masao. That was a magical experience. Almost as magical as helping Gamera save the world from a space squid.
  • I had Goji-kun fetch me Godzilla (1954) from the Vault, and there is no reference to “cursed waters” in it. Good catch, Elijah!
  • Invasion of the Body Snatchers came out in 1956, the same year as this film.
  • For the record, I said, “You got a problem with droids?” when Nate said only he and Elijah could understand me.
  • “Dubbed” = you meant “subbed” when asking about ’54, Nate.
  • So, about the White Heron. I…basically have it on loan from the Anti-Megalosaurus Force. Or rather, they loaned it to Ozaki and his EDF Mutants…but only because Captain Gordon pulled some strings. I don’t feel like saying more.
  • More love than Marchand. Indeed. Except I don’t get much fanmail. Send me fanmail, folks.

And now for the overabundance of leftover notes from Nate’s research that I have to edit down. It’s a good thing I like my job. A lot of these were from Nate’s “previous podcast life.”

Godzilla, King of the Monsters! (1956) Notes

  • The reporter character from the original cut still appears in a few shots and scenes, but he’s mostly supplanted by Martin.
  • Emiko and Ogata, who were the primary characters in the original, aren’t properly introduced until 24 minutes into the film. They are supplanted by Martin as the main character(s). This is unfortunate considering how compelling they were in the original cut. (In my most recent re-watch, I found myself wanting more of them and less of Martin). It spells out the love triangle more clearly than in the original. (Nate says he doesn’t feel this way anymore. –Nate)
  • There are several long shots of just Burr observing things or minding his own business while other characters talk or he narrates.
  • After Serizawa shows Emiko the Oxygen Destroyer, the original dialogue is there when he says her name, but then the dubbing kicks in. They’re clearly different.
  • The closest Martin ever comes to meeting his college friend Serizawa is talking to him on the phone.
  • Martin says Osaka might be attacked by Godzilla next. He was right—see Godzilla Raids Again. (I wonder how he felt about being right? I’d ask Raymund Martin, but…he’s in mourning. –Jimmy)
  • Still has the huge scientific error of saying the Jurassic Period as 2 million years ago. You’d think American filmmakers would catch that. Worse yet, they grossly exaggerate Godzilla height from 50 meters (approximately 160 feet) to 400 feet (he’s never been that tall). This misnomer is still believed by some on pop culture. (J.D. Lees, editor of G-Fan, once posited a fan theory to account for this discrepancy by saying Yamane was too frightened to make an accurate assessment. I doubt it). (I call BS on that! –Jimmy)
  • Serizawa appears 33 minutes in. He, too, is given a lesser role in this film, which also tragic given how compelling a character he is in the original. (Again, Nate doesn’t feel this way anymore. –Jimmy)
  • The oxygen destroyer is introduced sooner in this cut than in the original Japanese version. It’s done as set-up as opposed being something that might potentially be used against an existing problem (i.e. Godzilla after he comes ashore once). This is a more western-style of storytelling. Either way is legitimate, but I did find myself feeling like the device was introduced too soon in my re-watch.
  • This cut also has a brisker pace than the original, which isn’t surprising given that it is about 10 minutes shorter.
  • Unnecessary scream when Godzilla attacks a car. Almost comical. (It’s no Wilhelm scream, though. –Jimmy)
  • The mother and children are still in this cut of the film, but they are neither dubbed nor subbed, leaving her words a mystery to those who don’t understand Japanese. It’s been a point of contention among critics and fans. While it does help to know what she says, which makes the scene better, I, for one, am grateful it was left in. The effect is changed. This version seems intended to show the death of innocents (i.e. women and children) in Godzilla’s massacre.

Japan’s Green Monsters

  • Toho sold the distribution rights to Embassy Pictures for $25,000 (which is about $251,000 now).
  • They say this version makes the American have superior insight and omniscient knowledge, making the audience not empathize with the Japanese characters. (I call BS on this, too. –Jimmy)

Mushroom Clouds and Mushroom Men

  • Brothers argues that this version isn’t true to the letter of Honda’s original but is true to its overall spirit.

Honda Biography

  • Premiered at Times Square in April 1956. Earned $2 million.
  • During the Occupation, Hollywood set up an office in Tokyo to distribute American films.

LeMay

  • The dubbing was recorded in five hours.
  • Terry Morse directed small films for WB and was given $10,000 (about $100,000 now) to do all of this.

Galbraith

  • He’s surprisingly cold toward the movie (either version), saying Godzilla lacks personality and isn’t as distinctive as Toho’s later work.

Kalat

  • Burr had just co-starred in Rear Window (1954).

Noriega

  • “The Hollywood re-edited film plays on an American sense of guilt toward the Japanese in the early fifties, saying in effect, “look at what we’ve done/are doing to Japan.” As with other American radioactive-monster films, this guilt is then projected onto the monster, who is revealed to be the true cause within the movie. Godzilla’s death represses American guilt and anxieties about nuclear weapons: both history and Japan’s own filmic rendition are retextualized to erase the bomb and thereby relieve anxieties about the American occupation and H- bomb tests.”

Glownia

  • “In the American version he is not afraid that if publicized his invention would initiate a new arms race, rather that it could fall into the wrong hands. Thus Godzilla, King of the Monsters! tends to legitimize the possession of weapons of mass destruction by the “good guys”, and at the same time deny this right to the ‘bad guys’”

Ryfle and Godzisewski Commentary and “Godzilla’s Footprint” (and Hoberman)

  • Burr’s presence elevates it.
  • Edmund Goldman, the head of Manson Productions, is the man who can prove that he discovered Godzilla. He purchased the rights from Toho.
  • Martin teats the Japanese well and doesn’t look down on them. Also, the extras are Asian.
  • The cinematography is different The new footage uses close-ups and medium shots while Honda preferred wide shot followed by close-ups.
  • Ryfle compares this to the Donner Cut of Superman II, which he said may not see the light of day. Ha! It did! (This was out-of-date when the Classic Media DVD was released! –Jimmy)
  • This gets lumped in with B-movies largely because of the hyperbolic ad campaign.
  • The dialogue was recorded without visuals. That made looping difficult.

Kalat Commentary

  • The atomic monster genre played to the contradictory Cold War fears of Americans at the time: “Science is bad, and we need more of it.” (Speaking as a science guy, I disagree. Science is good…if used properly. An improper use is time travel. Stop it with time travel, people! –Jimmy)
  • The average foreign rights price was $3,000 (just for perspective).

War Crimes Tribunal

  • The chief prosecutor was Joseph B. Keenan, Assistant Attorney General of the United States and Director of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice of the United States. He was appointed by President Truman. (Wikipedia)
  • Keenan: “War and treaty-breakers should be stripped of the glamour of national heroes and exposed as what they really are—plain, ordinary murderers”. (Wikipdia)
  • Prosecution presented its case from May 3, 1945, to January 24, 1947.
    • The Charter provided that evidence against the accused could include any document “without proof of its issuance or signature” as well as diaries, letters, press reports, and sworn or unsworn out-of-court statements relating to the charges. (Brackman, Arnold C. (1987). The Other Nuremberg: The Untold Story of the Tokyo War Crimes Trial. New York: William Morrow and Company. P. 60).
    • Article 13 of the Charter read, in part: “The tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence…and shall admit any evidence which it deems to have probative value”. This included such things as: wartime press releases of the Allies, the recollections of a conversation with a long-dead man, and letetrs allegedly written by Japanese citizens that had no authenticity and weren’t cross-examined by the defense (Minear, Richard H. (1971). Victor’s Justice: The Tokyo War Crimes Trial. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press. P. 120)
    • When the prosecution rested, the Tribunal implemented the “best evidence rules,” a legal term that said the most authentic evidence was original documents (as opposed to descriptions of said evidence, for example). Justice Pal, one of two justices who voted for acquittal on all counts, observed, “In a proceeding where we had to allow the prosecution to bring in any amount of hearsay evidence, it was somewhat misplaced caution to introduce this best evidence rule particularly when it operated practically against the defense only” (Minear, Richard H. (1971). Victor’s Justice: The Tokyo War Crimes Trial. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press. Pp. 122-123)
  • The Defense presented its case January 27, 1947, to September 9, 1947.
    • George Furness, a Defense Counsel, stated, “[w]e say that regardless of the known integrity of the individual members of this tribunal they cannot, under the circumstances of their appointment, be impartial; that under the circumstances this trial, both in the present day and in history, will never be free from substantial doubt as to its legality, fairness and impartiality”.
    • Former Foreign Minister Shigenori Tōgō asserted that “[because of the Hull Note] we felt at the time that Japan was being driven either to war or suicide”. (Wikipedia)
  • There was contention over Emperor Hirohito’s legal status and the legitimacy of the Tribunal itself.
    • Justice William Webb of Australia, in his concurring opinion, wrote of Hirohito’s legal status, “The suggestion that the Emperor was bound to act on advice is contrary to the evidence”. While he didn’t indict the Emperor, Webb said Hirohito was responsible as a constitutional monarch who accepted “ministerial and other advice for war” and that “no ruler can commit the crime of launching aggressive war and then validly claim to be excused for doing so because his life would otherwise have been in danger…It will remain that the men who advised the commission of a crime, if it be one, are in no worse position than the man who directs the crime be committed”. (Röling, B. V. A.; Rüter, C. F. (1977). The Tokyo Judgment: The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (I.M.T.F.E), 29 April 1946-12 November 1948. 1. Amsterdam: APA-University Press. ISBN 978-90-6042-041-6. P. 478)
    • Justice Henri Bernard of France argued that excluding Hirohito called the entire Tribunal into question.  He concluded that Japan’s declaration of war “had a principal author who escaped all prosecution and of whom in any case the present Defendants could only be considered as accomplices”, and that a “verdict reached by a Tribunal after a defective procedure cannot be a valid one”. (Röling, B. V. A.; Rüter, C. F. (1977). The Tokyo Judgment: The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (I.M.T.F.E), 29 April 1946-12 November 1948. 1. Amsterdam: APA-University Press. ISBN 978-90-6042-041-6. P. 496) (Wikipedia)
    • Justice Bert Röling of the Netherlands wrote in his dissent, “It is well-nigh impossible to define the concept of initiating or waging a war of aggression both accurately and comprehensively.” He added, “I think that not only should there have been neutrals in the court, but there should have been Japanese also.” While he argued they would’ve been a minority and not swayed the balance of the trial, he said, “they could have convincingly argued issues of government policy which were unfamiliar to the Allied justices”. Citing difficulties and limitations in holding individuals responsible for acts of state and making omissions of responsibility crimes, Röling called for several defendants to be acquitted (including Hirota). (Wikipedia)
    • Justice Radhabinod Pal of India wrote a 1,235-page judgment that dismissed the Tribunal as victor’s justice: “I would hold that each and every one of the accused must be found not guilty of each and every one of the charges in the indictment and should be acquitted on all those charges”. While accounting for the influence of wartime propaganda, exaggerations, distortions of facts in the evidence, and “over-zealous” and “hostile” witnesses, Pal concluded, “The evidence is still overwhelming that atrocities were perpetrated by the members of the Japanese armed forces against the civilian population of some of the territories occupied by them as also against the prisoners of war”. (Wikpedia)
    • Justice Delfin Jaranilla of the Philippines, interestingly, dissented for different reasons. He thought the penalties imposed by the tribunal were “too lenient, not exemplary and deterrent, and not commensurate with the gravity of the offence or offences committed”.

Criticisms

  • Justice Röling went further, saying, “[o]f course, in Japan we were all aware of the bombings and the burnings of Tokyo and Yokohama and other big cities. It was horrible that we went there for the purpose of vindicating the laws of war, and yet saw every day how the Allies had violated them dreadfully”. (Wikipedia)
  • Complicating matters, there was no international law pertaining to aerial combat at the time. Ben Bruce Blakeney, an American defense consul for Japanese defendants, argued that “[i]f the killing of Admiral Kidd by the bombing of Pearl Harbor is murder, we know the name of the very man who[se] hands loosed the atomic bomb on Hiroshima.” However, the Pearl Harbor attack was classified as a war crime under the 1907 Hague Convention because it happened with no declaration of war and with no just cause for self-defense. Likewise, Japan’s bombings of Chinese cities was never brought up because it was feared this would mean incriminating the Allies for their fire bombings of Japanese cities. This meant no Japanese fighter pilots escaped prosecution for their actions. (Terror from the Sky: The Bombing of German Cities in World War II. Berghahn Books. 2010. p. 167. ISBN 1-8454-5844-3.)
  • Justice Pal published a dissenting opinion where he said he found the prosecution’s case that the Japanese government conspired to engage in aggressive war and subjugate other nations to be weak. While he acknowledged the brutality of the infamous Nanking Massacre, he saw nothing to indicate the Japanese officials were responsible.  There is “no evidence, testimonial or circumstantial, concomitant, prospectant, restrospectant, that would in any way lead to the inference that the government in any way permitted the commission of such offenses”, he said. He also added that conspiracy to wage aggressive war wasn’t illegal in 1937 or made illegal since then (“The Tokyo Judgment and the Rape of Nanking”, by Timothy Brook, The Journal of Asian Studies, August 2001.)

Have fun reading all of that.

As for next week, Nate has finally reached the “promised land,” as he calls it: the Heisei Gamera Trilogy. We start with 1995’s Gamera: Guardian of the Universe, which features the return of his favorite people, the Tourists. I’m not sure how many of them will make it, but they were all invited. Also, Nate has to finish his interview with Spacewoman Kilara or be shot into space. Then we have another Patreon-sponsored episode. This time it’s from MIFV MAX member, Damon Noyes, who selected The Magic Serpent for us. That should be interesting.

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Episode 47: ‘Godzilla, King of the Monsters’ (1956) (feat. Elijah Thomas)

Hello, kaiju lovers! “Godzilla Redux” continues with Godzilla, King of the Monsters! (the original and not the 2019 film covered on MIFV a few months ago). Elijah Thomas (aka “The Littlest Gatekeeper”) from the Kaiju Conversation podcast joins Nate to discuss this Americanized version of the original 1954 kaiju classic. While it’s often been derided by both fans and critics alike, Nate and Elijah argue that it’s not only an important time capsule commenting on American-Japanese relations in the mid-1950s, but it just might be more culturally significant than Ishiro Honda’s original film! You read that right! If it wasn’t for Raymond Burr playing reporter (not comedian) Steve Martin in this version, the Godzilla franchise may have stalled and faded into the arthouse ether. That’s just a taste of these boys’ defense of the film!

Before the broadcast, Nate gets a call from Legal Action Team paralegal Gary, who says he’s meeting with a private investigator concerning their case against the Board—just when William H. George III, the Board’s special envoy, pays Nate a visit to make some veiled threats. After the broadcast, which includes several reports about an escaped Gyaos, Raymund Martin comes demanding to know if Nate has seen Gary that day—and tells Nate and Jimmy about a tragedy on the Island.

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This episode’s prologue and epilogue, “Gary and the Gyaos,” was written by Nathan Marchand with Michael Hamilton and Damon Noyes. 

Guest stars:

  • Michael Hamilton as William H. George III
  • Damon Noyes as Gary & Raymund Martin

Additional music:

Sound effects sourced from Freesound.org.

We’d like to give a shout-out to our MIFV MAX patrons Travis Alexander and Michael Hamilton (co-hosts of Kaiju Weekly); Danny DiManna (author/creator of the Godzilla Novelization Project); Eli Harris (elizilla13); Chris Cooke (host of One Cross Radio); Bex from Redeemed Otaku; Damon Noyes, The Cel Cast, TofuFury, and today’s guest host, Elijah Thomas! Thanks for your support!

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Timestamps:

  • Prologue: 0:00-4:37
  • Intro: 4:37-16:30
  • Main Discussion: 16:30-1:28:59
  • Listener Feedback, Housekeeping & Outro: 1:28:59-1:39:13
  • Epilogue: 1:39:13-end

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Jimmy’s Notes on Episode 46: Daniel DiManna vs. ‘Gamera Super Monster’

Looks like Episode 46 should’ve been called, “Jimmy From NASA: Silent but Deadly.” Except the “deadly” part was before the broadcast and the “silent” part was during it.

I spent many hours filling out paperwork with Raymund Martin at the office of the Monster Island Legal Action Team because of this. Thankfully, with the help of Mr. Martin’s paralegal, Gary Steward, I’m happy to say that a court case won’t happen. Danny was too happy with his new toy to press charges or file lawsuits, anyway.

So…Gamera: Super Monster. I think Nate needed my banter to keep him from losing more of his mind, but Danny deprived him (and you, listeners) of it. That was easily the most unhinged he’s ever gotten on the air. I should’ve brought him some Jack Daniels.

Now for the part you came to read: my notes on the episode. I had plenty of time to jot them down since I was under Danny’s vow of silence.

  • In my defense, I figured Danny would love riding the pteronadon-bot again, and he’s surprisingly resilient given he survived the fall into the ocean. Maybe Nate was unintentionally right about him being Superman with a Beta Capsule?
  • Should my job feel threatened that Nate handled himself remarkably well without my help? No, because he needs someone to push his figurative and literal buttons. Plus, our viewership would drop because sometimes I get more love than him. 😛
  • I can’t find what karate level Mach Fumiake achieved (story has it she got a blackbelt, but that was after she made this movie), but she did become a champion pro-wrestler in AJW. I even found one of her matches on YouTube!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp59WwS1IbA
  • That RX7 was beautiful. Mazdas are gorgeous. I had a 1980 Mazda RX7 back in the day. That’s why I was pissed when Zanon destroyed the one in the movie.
  • What can I say? I’m a sucker for women who know martial arts and can kick my @$$.
  • If you were any other man, Danny, I would’ve killed you for mocking Nick Adams! My laser pistol is kept in a secret drawer in my producer booth.
  • Exploiting my past trauma…how very Sun Tzu of you, Marchand.
  • It’s “Gamera: Super Monster,” Marchand, not “Super Monster Gamera.” (But I doubt anyone cares).
  • I let Danny win. I knew he was faking. I just enjoyed taking a mini-vacation. 😉 Besides, like I said, I have giant robots I built myself in my garage.

Here are Nate’s leftover notes:

The Movie

  • Nine planets: eight now, apparently. (There are NINE planets. You can’t convince me otherwise. –Jimmy)
  • “Resistance is futile.” Good grief, I hope TNG didn’t get that from this! (At least the Borg did it better than Zanon. Small comfort? –Jimmy)
  • I thought about splicing in clips of all the previous episodes I’d done for the Year of Gamera, but I decided not to because it was easier—maybe?—to just broadcast about it. (I could’ve done it if I wasn’t so busy in my garage off the clock. –Jimmy)
  • Oh my gosh, Kenny! You play better than you sing!
  • How is it that only one guy saw the Spacewoman transform and teleport? (I got nothing. –Jimmy)
  • This “Gamera March” gets old quick. (That’s because it’s not from my movie. 😛 –Jimmy)
  • The time of day transforms with the Spacewomen. (Beautiful women can do that, especially when they’re henshin heroines. –Jimmy)
  • Don’t you hate it when your henshin attack gets interrupted by villains too smart to let you do it? (All the time. 😛 –Jimmy)
  • I don’t feel any stakes in this stock footage. I barely feel any stakes in the new footage!
  • When your ringtone sounds like an oily spring. (It might’ve been recorded in my garage…. –Jimmy)
  • Keiichi is stupidly trusting of strangers.
  • Giruge, high heels on a beach doesn’t sound like a good idea. (For once, I have to agree with you, Nate. –Jimmy)
  • If this is actually in the same universe as the previous movies, Gamera is having a lot of déjà vu. “History repeating.” And Zanon can resurrect and control kaiju. How is he having this much trouble conquering Earth?! (You’re complaining, why? –Jimmy)
  • Kilara conveniently opens a portal to Keiichi.
  • “One more chance” is never “one more chance” with Zanon—because he doesn’t understand the concept of numbers. (He went to the “gooder” schools. –Jimmy)
  • This movie is basically several episodes of a henshin hero show spliced together with spit and glue into a compilation movie with Gamera stock footage. (You might want to have it on Henshin Men, Nate. 😛 –Jimmy)
  • This movie just does whatever it wants without explanation. (Like me. 😛 –Jimmy)
  • So. Much. Padding!
  • Gamera jazz hands.

Commentary by Richard Pusateri

  • Says he likes Gamera more because of studying this movie?! (Some universities offer degrees in it. –Jimmy)
  • Likens tokusatsu to bonsai gardening: they know it isn’t real but appreciate the artistry of it and don’t see it as deceptive or trickery.
  • Argues that a movie doesn’t have to be good as long as it’s entertaining. (paraphrase)
  • “Space Macarana.” 😛
  • Toho = MGM, Toei = Warner Bros. Daiei = Universal
  • Could see this as a coda in a symphony or as a greatest hits album.
  • The wormhole recalls Godzilla’s Revenge.
  • The music in the “Dodzilla” scene might be emulating the theme from Son of Godzilla.
  • Jokes that Jackie Chan was Giruge’s stunt double.
  • Gamera vs. Barugon to the Shaft theme.
  • Jokes that Keiichi begging Gamera not to go to Shane.

Intro by August Ragone

  • “Previously on Gamera…”
  • A musical?

Galbraith

  • Claims the Dozilla clip was cut from the US version.

LeMay

  • Yuasa went on to direct episodes of Ultraman 80 after this.
  • This was sort of the inspiration for the 1995 Playdia video game Gamera: The Time Adventure.

Toku Topic: The Rise and Fall of Daiei Film (aka the Japanese Film Crash of 1970)

  • The Japanese Film Crash of 1970:
    • Films had to be leaner and more commercial, appealing to broader audiences. Genres like yakuza and “youth pictures” died. By 1970-1971, franchises like The Crazy Cats, Young Guy, Station Front, and the Boss were gone.
    • Genre films were being screened more at drive-ins and lowbrow theaters. Toho went from dealing with studios like Columbia and AIP to struggling “fly-by-night” companies.
    • There were several other trends that contributed to this:
      • People moved from the cities to the suburbs. This brought theater attendance down. Industrialization. Many theaters were closed because of this.
      • Foreign films started eating up ticket sales, and by 1975, they outsold domestic releases. It was hard to compete with big-budget Hollywood productions.

We did it! It’s uphill from here!

Since Nate survived (barely), Godzilla Redux continues next week with 1956’s Godzilla, King of the Monsters!, We’ll be joined by “the littlest gatekeeper,” Elijah Thomas of the Kaiju Conversation podcast. He’ll tell you who the “tru phans” are. Then, much to Nate’s excitement, he’s having the original Tourists return to start their journey through the Heisei Gamera trilogy with 1995’s Gamera: Guardian of the Universe.

Huzzah!

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